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I'm having problems with image subtractions and I was wondering if you could troubleshoot me. (You have to be patient with my ignorance on Image Processing):
This is what I've to do: To measure the dendritic growth of plated neurons (labeled by DiOlistics) by timelapse imaging.
This is what I've been doing: Once i acquire my video, I videotrack each growth tip (I image several at the same time) to measure how much it moved. But This is time consuming as I'm only interest in a gross measure of growth.
As an alternative, I was thinking of just take the last acquired frame and subtract it to the first one of timelapse.
So this is what I've been doing with ImageJ: 1) Acquire the Timelapse (Metamorph software) 1) Extract the 1st and the last frame of the timelapse stack (they are 16-bit images) 2) Align the two images with the ImageJ Plug-In TurboReg 3) Subtract them using ImageJ Process->ImageCalculator
But there are somethings that I don't understand: 1) Why the subtracted images have always positive intensities? Is this a Java thing? Would MetaMorph be better?
2)what is the best way to extract information from the subtracted image? - the number of black & white pixels? - Intensities outside Mean+/- SD? - A threshold image?
Any comments or hints you can give me for sure will be very useful.
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it seems that you have
alot of knowledge about processing so I have not much to say. My
suggestion would be:
(1) Use thresholded image (black and white). Then down scale to 8bit.
Dendrite white, background black.
(2) Black pixels contain intensity 0. so if you subtract white from
black (0-255) then the result is 0 in 8 bit or 16 bit because their
available numbers are between 0 and 255 (8bit) or 0 and 65536
(16bit), no negative numbers. *1
(3) for the reason (2), when you do image calculation, select "MIN"
instead of "subtract". And also before do ing the image calculation,
invert the first frame. This will leave the grown part (white, 255)
only.
(4) measure the white area in the resulted image. This can be done by
using "wand tool" in the menu bar to select the white region and then
"measure".
I hope this helps. If you couldn't get a result, send me the first
image and the last image.
*1 This is same for all software. |
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